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Postby Rick Lyon » 22 Sat Sep, 2007 9:37 pm

Took Buggy out tonight, was running great... :D

On the way home, had an open stretch of road, nailed it and ran it WOT up to 5000 RPM in 2nd and 3rd, immediately starts running bad when I let off of it...Backfiring, Popping, Pooting, Intermittent Engine Miss... :cry: :cry: :cry:

Any words of advice on where to look first..??? Will pull the plugs first thing tomorrow...Had been running great since Bryan and I worked on it last weekend...

Ah, the continued joys of owning a toy...Still no oil leak, though... 8-)

Any and all advice appreciated from the experts...

Later...Rick
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Postby MURZ » 22 Sat Sep, 2007 10:08 pm

It isn't the plugs....... for certain

Could be....plug wire came loose....common.
You bent a pushrod.....maybe.
You broke a valve adjuster swivel....maybe.
You broke a valve spring....maybe.
Lost a linkage nut...been there.

any noises????

Does it just do it up to say 2500? and then clear out. Could be trash in a idle jet.

Pull these brass screws out and in the end of each one is the idle jet. Pull out the idle jet and check for trash. See it under the fuel inlet. There is two in each carb. Call me after say 1:00 on Sunday...maybe I can help.
If you own IDF's get to know them well. Simple carbs but tempermental.
Here is good reading.
http://home.comcast.net/~luvdemdubz/idf/idfsetup.htm

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Mike, Thanks for the quick response of things to check out..

Postby Rick Lyon » 23 Sun Sep, 2007 12:18 am

See Responses Below...

MURZ wrote:It isn't the plugs....... for certain

Could be....plug wire came loose....common. Did a quick check on all four cyls. but it was dark and things were hot...Did not notice anything loose during the cursory check...
You bent a pushrod.....maybe.
You broke a valve adjuster swivel....maybe.
You broke a valve spring....maybe.
Lost a linkage nut...been there. Will check tomorrow...

any noises???? No Noises, other than the popping and backfiring, only when at even throttle or letting off acceletator...Runs fine under load...The miss clears out it and it runs normal...

Does it just do it up to say 2500? and then clear out. Could be trash in a idle jet. Runs fine when under load...The miss clears out and it runs normal...Only pops and backfires when under even engine load (engine rpm matched to throttle requirements) or when letting off the accelerator pedal...

Pull these brass screws out and in the end of each one is the idle jet. Pull out the idle jet and check for trash. See it under the fuel inlet. There is two in each carb. Call me after say 1:00 on Sunday...maybe I can help.
If you own IDF's get to know them well. Simple carbs but tempermental.
Here is good reading.
http://home.comcast.net/~luvdemdubz/idf/idfsetup.htm

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Postby MURZ » 23 Sun Sep, 2007 8:43 am

I bet idle jet. almost 100 percent

Do this....with engine running...unscrew one idle jet holder, does it run better? repeat on each until you find the one that once unscrewed makes the engine smoooooth out. That is the clogged one. Take the jet out of the holder and completely clean it out. A grain of sand or a piece of salt sized trash will make it run like that.

Patience grasshopper......

Wax on, wax off.....
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Postby MURZ » 23 Sun Sep, 2007 8:20 pm

Just got off the phone with Rick...idle jet...all is well.
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Postby Bill K » 23 Sun Sep, 2007 8:30 pm

Glad to hear it.
Not even GM offers a warranty like Murzi.
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Tell You What...

Postby Rick Lyon » 23 Sun Sep, 2007 10:54 pm

MURZ wrote:Just got off the phone with Rick...idle jet...all is well.


MURZ knows his stuff...I cleaned them once (all the idle jets) and it didn't fix the problem...

He said I didn't do a good enough job and to get back in there, along with a few other pointers...

Purring like a Kitten now...

Like others have said...

"YOU DA MAN, MURZ"...

Thanks for the help, Dude...All is well...

When did you say my warranty is up..??? lol...

Later...

Rick
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Postby MURZ » 24 Mon Sep, 2007 7:30 pm

When did you say my warranty is up..??? lol...


Soon as I see bolt ons from Pep Boys going on that mama.

Seriously, if all a flywheel oring and clogged idle jet has happened in the first 1000 miles consider yourself lucky. These are handmade cars......
'cept yours was made with passion too....

Ya ain't gonna have no problems. Now...go do a nasty burnout for me will ya :lol: :lol:
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Postby Bill K » 24 Mon Sep, 2007 10:14 pm

Michael, you should consider opening a "Cyber Shop"

Michael "DA MAN" Murzi's Cyber Shop

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Party On, Dude...

Postby Rick Lyon » 24 Mon Sep, 2007 11:45 pm

MURZ wrote:


Ya ain't gonna have no problems. Now...go do a nasty burnout for me will ya :lol: :lol:


Was getting a little worried about not being able to occaisionally stick my foot in to it to open up the carbs...Like anything, ya gotta get the bugs worked out...In my other car hobby I like to open all fours every now and then as well...

Gonna fill up the water bottle this weekend, ya know, the one that's pointed at both rear wheels... 8-)

You don't (and won't) hear me talk bad about the ride...That car is a BLAST...

I'm crazy about "Tater Tot"...

Later...

Rick
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Postby MURZ » 12 Fri Oct, 2007 7:12 pm

Swiped from another website...day late...dollar short

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maybe it will help someone else.

Got to pull the jet out of the holder to clean it, otherwise you just push the junk back in the jet holder.
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